Thinking of upgrading some Hardware

[Thetruecrow]

Before anyone reads below, I do not want an 8 core AMD processor. Please do not suggest it

Right now I have a 3570k and it's not only a horrible bin(20C range at stock idling and 100%), but it's not powerful enough, even at 4.6GHz.

I'm contemplating getting a 3770K, but my motherboard is a really cheap Asus board(Saw it recently for 80 bucks on sale), so I was also considering getting the 4770K and a new motherboard, since my laptop has the 4600 processor and it is fast as fuuuuuck.

Anyone got any suggestions? I'm pretty much dead set on the 3770k right now but who knows, it might be worth the hardware bump since I could just drop in a broadwell processor next year or whatever, and my budget is currently endless, so Ivy Bridge E is also a possibility but I'm not too sure I need that much power...

 

[Neth]

I assumed you had a atx case, you also get some promo on those
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/12aew

 

[Hyperion]

It's not powerful enough because It's AMD.

Get an Intel board with an Intel processor. You will never have an issue

 

[FoxGaming]

Depends on what the build is for, is this for hardcore gaming? If so what's your GPU?

If the build is for gaming you're not going to see much of a difference in the 3570k to 3770k, if it's for rendering or video editing then you'll see a difference due to the hyperthreading. By the time games utilize hyperthreading you'll be so outdated in Hardware that you'll have to upgrade. What applications are running slowly or are not powerful enough? How much ram do you have(if you're using ram intensive programs?)

I just don't see that upgrade worth your time, when other pieces of hardware could be upgraded.

 

[Tommy]

It's not powerful enough because It's AMD.

Get an Intel board with an Intel processor. You will never have an issue

Can't base brand name over quality of a product. I've used nothing but AMD and NEVER had a problem with any of it. I have to ask with FoxGaming, is this for gaming or what? You never really say what it's for. XD

 

[Hyperion]

Can't base brand name over quality of a product. I've used nothing but AMD and NEVER had a problem with any of it. I have to ask with FoxGaming, is this for gaming or what? You never really say what it's for. XD

It goes for the brand name and the quality of the product. Why would I say 'Because it's AMD" because of the brand? It's only their processors I dislike, If you used an i7 with hyperthreading, you would be singing the same tune.

 

[Tommy]

It goes for the brand name and the quality of the product. Why would I say 'Because it's AMD" because of the brand? It's only their processors I dislike, If you used an i7 with hyperthreading, you would be singing the same tune.

Not only do I have AMD products that have nothing wrong with them, but I also have an intel i7. Nothing has been wrong with it and I have no intentions of rating because of the brand. They are both fine and have nothing wrong with them. You only dislike their product, but it seems as if you're judging the entire brand over it's products. I've had my AMD processor going on 4 years and haven't had a single issue with it. :/

This going off-topic is making me weak.. uhhhhhhhhhhh

 

[Hyperion]

Not only do I have AMD products that have nothing wrong with them, but I also have an intel i7. Nothing has been wrong with it and I have no intentions of rating because of the brand. They are both fine and have nothing wrong with them. You only dislike their product, but it seems as if you're judging the entire brand over it's products. I've had my AMD processor going on 4 years and haven't had a single issue with it. :/

This going off-topic is making me weak.. uhhhhhhhhhhh

This is just you. Your opinion on AMD is just like mine with Intel. I'm not judging it's brand AT ALL, I've had AMD all my life until 2 years ago when I built this machine, and the amd was always shit for me.

Let's just do this now to get it out of the way since there are always
separate opinions on mostly the following topics:

Intel > AMD

XBOX > PS

PC > MAC

Linux > Windows

Me > You



:thumbupguy:

 

[Tommy]

Keep wishing. :sweaty:

 

[Hyperion]

Keep wishing. :sweaty:

:focus:

 

[Neth]

AMD > Intel & nvidia

PS4 > XBOX ONE > XBOX 360> PS3

Mac > Raspberry pi > PC

Linux > Windows

Me > You

fixed it for you, I forgot to say on topic that I assumed you was doing some gaming & developpement(multitask) according to your desktop screen

 

[Thetruecrow]

Thanks for the suggestions fox, I have 16GB of 1600MHz ram with low cas latency, it's mainly CPU bottleneck I'm facing due to multithreaded programs, and while I do need a new case, I don't think any of my hardware is outdated yet, just that I want more CPU power.
Originally I got the 3570K because it was meant to be nothing more than a gaming computer, but lately I've used it for gaming very little.

Yes Neth, I have been doing game development, some 3D rendering in my off time, and a lot more video editing lately, which is why I'm contemplating the hyperthreaded multicore processors.


Thanks for the fanboy thread guys, really loving it.

Tommy you've contradicted yourself by saying that you have only used AMD in one post, then saying you have an i7(Which generation btw?) in another, regardless I too have used and built multiple systems from AMD, including AM2, AM3, FM1 and FM2 and find that the power they put out is just too inadequate for the tasks I do, but that's just my opinion.

The reason I choose Intel over AMD has nothing to do with their other hardware, but only to do with their processors and respective motherboards, Intel boards for 1155 and previous are kinda shitty, but nothing compares to the degradation of AMD boards currently on the market.

On the point of Xbox vs Playstation, I think it should be:
Playstation 2 == Xbox
Playstation 3 < Xbox 360
Playstation 4 ~> Xbox One, neither are released though so it's not a solid judgement call.
Either way, Sony > Microsoft as a company.
Mac is a PC with a shitty operating system, obviously glorious Raspberry Pi is winner.

In regards to AMD vs nVidia, who cares? They're both power houses, and as long as they're competative we are the ones who win.
Saying one is better than the other is stupid because they're constantly outranking each other, though AMD is behind by like, half a year.
Currently I have a AMD Radeon HD 7850 that I use and it's pretty much all I need in terms of graphical power, but I also have a Superclocked GTX 560(With an aftermarket heatsink, Jesus Christ that heat output) that I let my friend use.

And that's all I pretty much have to say about that. Anyone want to argue go ahead and send me a PM.

 

[FoxGaming]

For within $20 you can get the I7-4770k which you will see more of a performance increase than going from the i5 3570 to the I7 3770. The 7850 is a nice Card, I just recently upgraded to a 7950. Since it's the hyperthreading you're more interested in I could definitely recommend this as an upgrade:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116901
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116940

Either one of those CPU's with a decent motherboard will be an improvement for your system in terms of rendering, encoding, and development.
As far as motherboards go I can recommend ASUS as a manufacturer I've been running ASUS Motherboards since I built my first computer and that's been about 10-20builds ago that I started using them.

As far as going above what's necessary at the moment and looking at what is coming and for what you may need it for in the future this CPU is my recommendation:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116939

It's a definitely a bit higher in cost but it is more "future proof" than the other chips. Though nothing is future proof but it will last you longer than the quad cores as the Hex Cores with hyper threading will be eventually utilized by applications and will definitely improve your performance in the tasks you've stated.

 

[Tommy]

Tommy you've contradicted yourself by saying that you have only used AMD in one post, then saying you have an i7

I don't see how that results in contradiction. I have both AMD and i7, but I didn't mention it to begin with considering we were talking about AMD. However, when Faded brought up me not having an i7 and said, "If you had an i7 XXXX you'd know," thus me letting him know I do have an intel i7. Either way, I dislike the way people mention how they dislike something and blaming it on the entire company without specifying what they were talking about to begin with. Also, we weren't saying one was better than the other, it was merely an argument about which was better, but trying to specify the "I dislike AMD" statement to "I don't dislike it all, just the processors."

Anyway, I'm confused as to what you're mainly wanting this upgrade for. You said you game a little, do 3D rendering and well, pretty much everything.

 

[Thetruecrow]

Was just something I noticed, not gonna continue to point them out.

Anyway, I'm confused as to what you're mainly wanting this upgrade for. You said you game a little, do 3D rendering and well, pretty much everything.

Indeed I do pretty much everything, but I want to not only do everything faster, I want to still be able to do other things while doing everything.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116901
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116940
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116939

They are indeed good choices, but the latter 2 are LGA 2011 with basic motherboards costing upwards of 250 dollars and the only real benefit besides processing power is the ability to crossfire or SLI without lane performance loss so I think I'll stick to 1155 or 1150 due to not wanting to crossfire again haha.