What do you think about the new expansion?

[Skrbx]

Maybe is few days late to post this but i had no time until now... So what you think about the ide behind the new wow expansion?

Here is the video trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYueIdI_2L0#t=16

 

[Anthonys-Toolbox]

Looking forward to the addition to the existing Lore, other than that I'm so so on the subject.

 

[darksoke]

look like a bullshit !! there is no storyline the only things I see there others than MOP are some texture changes and level cap raised to 100 :| i'm wonder how much will take untill they make a lvl 255 :|

 

[Nonsense]

Lame, I want to see them actually start fresh and redesign WoW, they got the money and developers and the time, instead of updating a crappy game engine, create a entirely new engine, and make the game up to 2013 standards, they've milked WoW way to much, that's why they are having a increase in player lost.

 

[Tommy]

Looks more relevant than Pandas. Can't wait to see the results of it when it releases.

 

[Skrbx]

Overall i can't say that is something amazing... Adding new dungeons, quests, zones, character models etc. sounds like "we are out if ideas, but lets add new zone and increase the lvl cap to 100, it would be enough for an new expansion".
Otherwise the idea for one character boost to 90lvl is very good, and i know am sure many people will start playing retail wow back only because of this option.
[MENTION=428]darksoke[/MENTION]: Actually is pretty normal to increase the lvl cap in order to add new zones and keep the old one existing.
[MENTION=576]Nonsense[/MENTION]: The game engine is good for me, but the idea to remake the entire game was already used (cataclysm), and i don't expect any similar expansions soon...

 

[Tommy]

Overall i can't say that is something amazing... Adding new dungeons, quests, zones, character models etc. sounds like "we are out if ideas, but lets add new zone and increase the lvl cap to 100, it would be enough for an new expansion".
Otherwise the idea for one character boost to 90lvl is very good, and i know am sure many people will start playing retail wow back only because of this option.

That's what they do in every expansion (Besides the new character model stuff). People will enjoy it until it gets to the point where it is boring again. I think they need to stop making expansions and think about up to date mechanics, etc. Nonetheless, the new expansion looks nice, but I wish they would do something else that doesn't keep running into a rinse and repeat.

 

[darksoke]

i was just saying that the only thing they have changed is level and some misc stuff :| but they still don't have a story line :|

 

[Hyperion]

Rush out that expansion for another 1million+ x50$ addon mmmmm money yummy

 

[Lucent]

Maybe is few days late to post this but i had no time until now... So what you think about the ide behind the new wow expansion?

Personally, I'm extremely excited. I'm one of the rare people that while I've taken plenty of breaks from the game, I've enjoyed lots of things about every expansion so far. Every expansion has had its ups and downs, but overall I still enjoy the game a lot and I think WoD will be great.

My reasoning:

• First of all, the preview of the zones looks great. I loved Outlands, and seeing them in their previous state is probably going to send a chill down my spine, almost like reverse nostalgia.
• Character models have needed updating for a long time, I can hardly play Horde anymore because the hair on the Horde races looks so bad compared to instead playing Alliance races. Its great that they're finally getting updates, Orcs look great, Taurens look great, hell even female Gnomes look great.
• They're doing an item squish. For those who haven't played Mists of Pandaria, gear currently has a GIGANTIC gap between performance levels. Someone with an average item level of 10 higher than another person can do 20k+ more DPS. With the item squish they're bringing item stats back down to Wrath levels which should be nice.
• Raiding is becoming infinitely better, theres currently a website called openraid.us where you can find people from different servers to raid with, they're making this an IN GAME FUNCTION to promote that people actually group together instead of using random matchmaking. THAT IS AWESOME. They're also expanding their new flex model so for Normal and Heroic you can bring any amount of players between 10-25, so I can join a raid even if they already have 10 people, but not 25 people. Oh yeah, and I can come in half way through, so if I get home 30 minutes late, I can still come to raid without hurting my guild by doing so.

Those are just some reasons why I think they've made some great changes.

look like a bullshit !! there is no storyline the only things I see there others than MOP are some texture changes and level cap raised to 100 :| i'm wonder how much will take untill they make a lvl 255 :|

Right, theres no storyline despite us playing alongside a whole list of some of the most well known names in Orcish lore? You must not have played Warcraft 3, because that alone (not even counting the previous Warcraft games) would probably show you that there is plenty of lore to be had in this expansion. Grommash is one of the biggest heroes the Horde has ever had, so yeah I'm sure having him in the in-game lore will just be TERRIBLE.

Lame, I want to see them actually start fresh and redesign WoW, they got the money and developers and the time, instead of updating a crappy game engine, create a entirely new engine, and make the game up to 2013 standards, they've milked WoW way to much, that's why they are having a increase in player lost.

The current engine is old, but they are using it amazingly well. For a game that came out in 2004 it has aged beyond what anyone probably originally imagined. In fact, theres a game that I've been following called WildStar, I think it looks amazing. It hasn't even released yet, and after the WoD update, the look of Warcraft will actually somewhat match the look of Wildstar. Its impressive that they can utilize the engine so well. In the end, yes a new engine would be nice, but it isn't necessary for them right now, they're doing perfectly fine without one, and they're bringing us updates that they feel are more important, while also bringing us new games. Who knows, Titan may end up being the game that a lot of people have been waiting for, we just don't know anything about it yet.

i was just saying that the only thing they have changed is level and some misc stuff :| but they still don't have a story line :|

I won't go into storyline again since I already mentioned that part, but that misc stuff is a lot better than you'd think. I can't blame you for not knowing if you haven't been playing retail recently, but if you had any perspective you'd probably realize how big of a change most of those "misc stuff" changes are.

 

[Skrbx]

I have to agree with Lucent about the character models, this is amazing because they haven't changed them since a lot of time ago. I haven't played retail recently, but some friends of mine told me the same thing about the item stats, which is crazy, hopefully they will fix that in upcoming expansion. But i found a vary big negative the fact that you have to buy 6 games to play!!! Yes someone will say you can buy *ONLY* the: 1)Battle Chest, 2)Cataclysm, 3)MOP, 4) WOD.... which is ridiculous. There are some rumors that blizzard will add cataclysm to battle chest but still you need 3 games to play. Is a MUCH easier to buy one game for the price of all which gives you all bonuses + free trail period which will be enough to level up a character without upgrading your account for each exp in order to get free game time... For me to start playing retail is too much complicated for some people (because when you have to pay, you are trying to make the best deal), and thats why many of them are still playing private server, or they don't even play wow....

 

[Nonsense]

You guys have a point, but we all know they're rushing it out to keep players with them, and for the extra cash. They only upgrade it to the minimum amount they can that would satisfy the players a little bit, until they meet there quota, and rush out another expansion, and repeat the process.

 

[Nostromox]

Lame, I want to see them actually start fresh and redesign WoW, they got the money and developers and the time, instead of updating a crappy game engine, create a entirely new engine, and make the game up to 2013 standards, they've milked WoW way to much, that's why they are having a increase in player lost.

Project titan maybe? anyways Blizzard is a business after all and what do you strive to earn as a business? Money obviously, World of Warcraft is a huge money maker and it will continue to be for a long time so why kill it off while it's still making tons of cash.

Overall I think the new expansion looks promising. They are scaling it back to WOTLK stats which in my book is a +1 however it should have been implomented earlier. We are getting revamped models (about time). We are also getting garrisons which looks cool. We get 1 free 90 (Now I can finally reroll a paladin). In my opinion its to early to bash the expansion based on what we've seen so far which isnt that much tbh.

i was just saying that the only thing they have changed is level and some misc stuff :| but they still don't have a story line :|

So garrosh going back in time after he lost the war to build up the horde he always wanted isn't a storyline for you? Atleast look into it more before saying that they don't got a storyline going with this expansion.

 

[Lucent]

I have to agree with Lucent about the character models, this is amazing because they haven't changed them since a lot of time ago. I haven't played retail recently, but some friends of mine told me the same thing about the item stats, which is crazy, hopefully they will fix that in upcoming expansion. But i found a vary big negative the fact that you have to buy 6 games to play!!! Yes someone will say you can buy *ONLY* the: 1)Battle Chest, 2)Cataclysm, 3)MOP, 4) WOD.... which is ridiculous. There are some rumors that blizzard will add cataclysm to battle chest but still you need 3 games to play. Is a MUCH easier to buy one game for the price of all which gives you all bonuses + free trail period which will be enough to level up a character without upgrading your account for each exp in order to get free game time... For me to start playing retail is too much complicated for some people (because when you have to pay, you are trying to make the best deal), and thats why many of them are still playing private server, or they don't even play wow....

Buying all the games has always been an issue, it is one of the major points to people having trouble getting the game. Though, I think they just recently added Cata to the battle chest. They also did a promotion (and probably still are) where if you recruit/res people they get free expansion upgrades and what not.

You guys have a point, but we all know they're rushing it out to keep players with them, and for the extra cash. They only upgrade it to the minimum amount they can that would satisfy the players a little bit, until they meet there quota, and rush out another expansion, and repeat the process.

Umm...is that supposed to be bad? First of all they're not rushing. They won't give us a release date yet other than a generalization because they DO NOT want to rush it. They want it to be ready for us when they release it. However, they do want to please the players (again, is that supposed to be bad?!?! I like it when a company cares about my fun) so they're going to keep giving us content in as timely a manner as they can.

Also, they're definitely not upgrading it "the minimum amount". You want so badly to bandwagon on the Blizzard Hate Train that you're just throwing out ridiculous reasons why they're bad. Have you even taken a look at the features? They're adding so much stuff which people have been asking to have added for years. The list of things they have planned is HUGE. But okay, sure they're giving us minimum features.

Oh yeah, and by the way, companies make money. I'm sorry if it displeases you that they might have an interest in making more money, but if I had a chance to make more money than I do right now you're damn certain I'd take that chance, and don't play Mr. Self Righteous and act like you wouldn't too.
Edit: To add to this last point, when you have a successful product, and people WANT more of it (yes, believe it or not, players actually ask for expansions, not everyone simply wants to hate Blizzard), you don't throw it out the window because it would be kinder of you to do so or anything like that. Capitalize on success.

 

[Nonsense]

Some points I have.
1. Panda People.
2. 1-3 years then they'll pump out another expansion... there on there fifth expansion.
3. I feel like they're milking it.

 

[Lucent]

Some points I have.
1. Panda People.
2. 1-3 years then they'll pump out another expansion... there on there fifth expansion.
3. I feel like they're milking it.

1. Have you played Mists of Pandaria? Everyone likes to say "OMG PANDAS", but not many have actually tried it. To address the pandas being added, people did actually ask for them for a while, and it is actually a lore race (while not a major one, it isn't simply "hey, we should add a race that looks like pandas"

Now, even if you're one of the people that wants to ignore those points and dislike pandaren just because they're pandas, the expansion itself is still fairly good. It has nice music, beautiful zones, and more importantly its probably the most lore rich expansion to date. Sure, the lore of this expansion may not be based on things that the average player has been exposed to (ie: Any warcraft 3 player knows about Illidan, Kil'jaedan, Arthas/LK, etc., those were easy lore targets and part of why they were swallowed up so easily - not so much Deathwing even though he had profound lore to his name), but the storytelling elements and the amount of lore that they made to be easily taken in are great. Playing through the zones of Pandaria is actually a nice experience because unlike the other expansions, the zones don't feel separate. Instead, the entire continent feels like one large story, which is something that was great. Hate on pandaren if you want, but its a bit silly to hate on a race simply because you don't like the look of it (more likely you've swallowed the bandwagon so hard you can't even make your own opinions anymore) when the expansion itself offers a bunch of great things to it.

If you don't like lore, theres still a bunch to be said about the expansion
-Rares have become more than just a cool mob with a shiny portrait, they actually require a strategy to kill now which builds skill in players and makes finding them all that much more fun.
-Less dailies, more awesome questlines (the legendary questline that all players can get in MoP lasts from the moment you hit 90 all the way until the end of the expansion, its a long, tedious, and amazing journey).
-Dynamic events have made their place in WoW, allowing for a much more fun open world.
-Flexible raiding has opened the doors to allow any amount of raiders between 10-25 to raid, so guilds with 12 people online don't have to make 2 people wait for a spot, they can come too. This helps out a ton of people and its being added on to and improved in the next expansion
-World bosses and open world content is better than ever before
-Challenge modes, Brawlers Guild, and other, newer similar content have also allowed us to have fun pass-times that are extremely challenging aside from heroic raiding content.
-probably a lot more to be said, but this post is going to be long enough as is.

2. I'm sorry, I thought I had already addressed that PEOPLE ARE ASKING FOR EXPANSIONS. Again, if you have a successful product you don't sink it. They're not milking their product (yes, they are making a lot of money off of WoW, and I don't see a problem with that, they're a company DESIGNED to make money, deal with it, thats how the real world works.), they're adding content that people quite frankly are constantly demanding that they give them. These people also ask for these expansions/updates much faster than Blizzard can even deliver them, so that 1-3 year timeframe (usually 2~ years) is even slower than what most people want.

Do you also dislike EQ? Because they're on like 16 expansions now or something ridiculous like that. I doubt you do though, most people neglect that strong, well made games might actually have people that -want- to continue playing them in their quest to try to bring down Blizzard.

3. I basically just addressed this in the last point, but I'll go ahead and quote something for emphasis

Expansions[edit]
There have been 20 expansions to the original game since release. Expansions are purchased separately and provide additional content to the game (for example: raising the maximum character level; adding new races, classes, zones, continents, quests, equipment, game features). Additionally, the game is updated through downloaded patches. The EverQuest expansions:
The Ruins of Kunark (April 2000)
The Scars of Velious (December 2000)
The Shadows of Luclin (December 2001)
The Planes of Power (October 2002)
The Legacy of Ykesha (February 2003)
Lost Dungeons of Norrath (September 2003)
Gates of Discord (February 2004)
Omens of War (September 2004)
Dragons of Norrath (February 2005)
Depths of Darkhollow (September 2005)
Prophecy of Ro (February 2006)
The Serpent's Spine (September 2006)
The Buried Sea (February 2007)
Secrets of Faydwer (November 2007)
Seeds of Destruction (October 2008)
Underfoot (December 2009)
House of Thule (October 2010)
Veil of Alaris (November 2011)
Rain of Fear (November 2012) and Shadow of Fear (April 2013) and Heart of Fear (July 2013)
Call of the Forsaken (October 2013)